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Michka reflects on the current status of the cannabis plant and its future in the medical sphere. Read her second article for Sensi Seeds’ blog. Harvest Weed Seed Control At harvest time, weeds that have escaped season long management often have mature seed still attached to the parent plants. These weed seeds can enter the combine along Does anyone out there known of an easy way to get seed out of buds without destroying the bud itself?

WHEN WEED WAS… WEED!

For forty-five years now, Michka has witnessed with her own eyes the evolution of the cannabis world. Here, she shares with us her unique insights into the major transformations that shape it today.

One of the things I liked right away about weed, marijuana, was that it was obviously a plant – raw plant material.

It was I think back in 1972, not too far from Vancouver, the weed was being imported from Mexico and it was just a shapeless mass from which we had to remove what was unsmokable. First, we had to take out the biggest twigs and then break up the rest. The best way to get rid of the seeds was to spread the crumbled up weed on a rigid album cover and tilt it slightly as to make the seeds roll off. Seeds were abundant, and naturally, that’s how cannabis was first grown in North America.

First crops, first sinsemillas

I myself germinated those Mexican seeds and planted them with love in the soil of western Canada where I lived back then. The plants grew lush and fast, their long, thin leaves dancing under the sun… until they took a fatal blow when frost came with the fall. We would smoke the tight bundles of green shoots that had formed at the ends of the branches (the tops) and use the rest to make brownies. The result was magical, and happy we were.

I clearly remember how surprised I was when, back in Europe, I held in my hands for the first time a cola of sinsemilla, well-shaped, resinous… and seedless! It was in the Netherlands in the early 90s, and that mysterious Nevil (whom I was meeting for the first time) was handing it to me, suggesting I should roll a joint. Abashed by that strange bud, I declined his offer, and let him roll it instead.

At that time, near Amsterdam, the “Cannabis Castle” was welcoming visitors, some of them coming from far away, such as myself (I was living in Paris), showing them, maybe for the first time, female plants grown in the absence of male plants. They were in full bloom, exuding everything they had in the hope that the much-awaited pollen would materialize. Looking back, I can say it was the beginning of a revolution – a move away from the ancestral way of growing in fields exposed to both sun and wind.

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Cannabis is fundamentally different from other “drug plants”

One characteristic that sets cannabis apart from all the other drug plants (coffee, tobacco, coca, poppy, etc.) is that it’s free of alkaloids. Caffeine, nicotine, cocaine, morphine are all alkaloids, toxic compounds deadly in large doses. In this perspective, weed stands apart, as it is not toxic. This peculiarity also explains why its chemical composition was elucidated much later than that of these other plants.

In the beginning of the 19 th century, alkaloids were widely identified; yet it was not before 1964 that THC’s chemical formula, cannabis’ psychoactive molecule, was discovered, thanks to professor Mechoulam and his team.

Up until the 60s, a pharmacist – the person preparing drugs – receiving a batch of hemp (its Latin name being Cannabis L., the L meaning “according to Linnaeus’ classification”) had no way to determine the amounts of active ingredients contained in the plant. For centuries, and still in the 50s, all varieties of Cannabis L. were indistinctively called “hemp” in Europe; the only distinction made was for hemp imported from India and neighbouring regions, which was called “Indian hemp”. It was thus impossible to prepare in our countries drugs with predictable potencies. This explains (conspiracy theories apart) why cannabis was purely and simply left out of the official pharmacopoeia of European countries in the 50s.

The race for THC

Prohibition and the consequent black-market set very particular conditions. When a substance is illegal, every effort is made to ensure that the final products are as potent as possible (under the Prohibition era in the States, people distilled whiskey or gin, they didn’t brew beer).

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The same phenomenon happened with cannabis: in the decades during which prevailed the “war on drugs”, it was all about who would produce the strongest weed. In the US and the Netherlands, everyone boasted about exceedingly high THC levels (which had become by then easy to determine).

Meanwhile, anecdotal reports of cannabis having beneficial effects for people suffering from glaucoma, nausea caused by chemotherapy or multiple sclerosis kept on building up. More and more patients demanded access to the plant; but their request was always denied on the ground that science had not yet confirmed its efficiency. Well of course, President Nixon in 1970 explicitly prohibited any research into its medicinal properties.

WASHINGTON, DC – APRIL 29: President Richard Nixon at a news conference. Photographed April 29, 1971 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Ellsworth Davis/The Washington Post via Getty Images)

But some twenty years later, research made a strong comeback. We rediscovered CBD, another cannabinoid that had been identified before THC but was overshadowed by it.

CBD’s revenge

In nature, THC and CBD balance one another: the former boosts imagination and creativity, whereas the latter calms down and relaxes.

Who would have thought that this non-psychoactive cannabinoid would become so popular and that there would be such a high demand for CBD products?

Indeed, CBD is now praised for its countless virtues. It is an excellent anti-inflammatory; it is efficient against chronic pain; its neuroprotective properties allow for a quicker and better recovery after a stroke; it protects against some forms of cancer – all of which, paradoxically, are particularly appealing to the senior population. An acquaintance of mine recently found himself saying “Dad, you were on my case for twenty years because I smoked weed and now, you’re consuming more cannabis products than I am!”

The other day, a French gardener offered me some hash… made from legal hemp! He proudly warned me “You’ll see those terpenes…”, and indeed, its fragrance was lovely. Being carried away as he was, he seemed to forget that to me, his hash was yet short on the essential.

It has become clear that in this day and age, where countless people suffer from stress, the calming effect of cannabis is precious, even in the absence of THC.

Meanwhile, young Americans, especially Californians, started growing weary of weed in its natural state, calling it old school. The arrival of the electronic cigarette (and the prominent publicity around it) set up the stage for a deep transformation. Many consumers started putting their trust into an electronic joint, a man-made industrial product, and rejecting nature’s raw plant material. And dabbing, although different, has only made the cleavage greater.

Myself putting all my trust in plants, I have a hard time understanding this shift. I do care a lot about the diversity of varieties (and it is no secret I have a soft spot for true sativas, Hazes in particular), but I prefer staying as close as possible to the plant. That’s my rustic side! Yet, I do acknowledge the facts: we are going through another little revolution.

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The revolution of chemistry

Chemistry’s time has come, whether from the perspective of large pharmaceuticals eager to commercialize and patent cannabis-derived products, or that of vanguard consumers. Everyone is busy isolating, concentrating, extracting (a dynamic that similarly affected the coca leaves – used in rituals amongst Andeans cultures – when it became the raw material for producing that white powder called cocaine…)

Those among us that lived through the 70s have witnessed over less than half a century a shift from a world where psychoactive hemp was grown in a traditional way, in places that were still being referred to as “the third world” to an era (the present day) where western countries produce their own stocks of cannabis using leading-edge technologies and transforming them into ever more potent products.

Maybe the legalisation movement that is picking up in some western countries could reverse, at least partially, some of the consequences of that dynamic so that people will start appreciating again weed that feels more natural, weed that resembles more closely the plant grown throughout history in many different parts of the world.

Harvest Weed Seed Control

At harvest time, weeds that have escaped season long management often have mature seed still attached to the parent plants. These weed seeds can enter the combine along with the cash crop, exit the back of the combine as chaff (small plant pieces and weed seeds), and be spread across the field, as well as from one field to another. It seems a waste to spend all year spraying weeds with expensive herbicides only to reward the survivors at harvest by spreading their weed seeds out for next year.

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An excellent way to stop weeds in their tracks is to collect these weed seeds at harvest and either destroy them or deposit them in a known location where they can be monitored and controlled later. Soybean, wheat, and other crops harvested with a grain header are ideal choices for harvest weed seed control (HWSC). Other crops such as cotton and corn need further equipment development to make HWSC a viable option.

If you are considering adding harvest weed seed control (HWSC) to your weed control program there are excellent resources on the WeedSmart website to help guide you through the initial decisions and the implementation of this important weed control tool.

3 steps to get it working for you

1. Decide which system fits your farm best.

2. Get maximum weed seed into the header.

3. Know how to manage the collected weed seed.

What is Harvest Weed Seed Control?

Choose The Best System For You

Which system is best?

HWSC is being rapidly adopted in Australia and other countries around the world. There are six systems currently being used on Australian farms and they have been initially developed by farmers.

Research has demonstrated that all are very effective weed seedbank management tactics for a range of weed species, achieving over 80 percent control and for some nearly 100 percent.

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Over 80% weed control for species that retain seed at harvest

Crop residue management

There are six systems currently used to collect and manage weed seed at harvest. They can be grouped according to the way crop residue is managed: chaff only or chaff + straw.

CHAFF ONLY

Chaff carts are a tow-behind unit on the combine that collects the weed seed-laden chaff, which can then be placed into piles that are later either grazed by livestock, burnt, or both and sown through the following season. Chaff carts are often chosen for use on mixed cropping and livestock farms in Australia as the chaff is an excellent livestock feed; however, spreading manure back onto fields can allow for further seed spread.

Chaff lining funnels the chaff and weed seeds into narrow rows behind the combine, where the residue is left to overwinter. The weed seeds are exposed to natural elements that can lead to weed seed decay and predation. Typically a follow-up herbicide application is required. – Chaff lining is usually considered a good entry-level HWSC option.

Chaff decks (chaff tramlining) are similar to chaff lining, but place the chaff in one or both of the combine’s wheel tracks. The added compaction from the wheels can be beneficial in controlled traffic systems.

Impact mills run the chaff through a mill that pulverizes (destroys) the weed seed, which is then spread across the fields. This technology is usually considered the ultimate in HWSC.

CHAFF + STRAW

Bale direct collects all the crop residue directly from the combine and compacts it into large bales suitable for sale.

Narrow windrow burning collects all of the crop chaff and straw residue, and funnels it into narrow rows in the field. These rows are burnt to destroy the weed seed. This method is effective but removes all of the crop residue from the field.

Learn More About Each System in This Research Report

Calculate the cost

While each HWSC tactic is similarly effective in collecting weed seeds , they vary considerably in capital and ownership cost, nutrient removal costs, operational costs, and labor costs. Some HWSC tactics involve the purchase of substantial machinery – such as an impact mill, chaff cart, or chaff deck – but the operational and labor costs might be lower than methods such as narrow windrow burning, which involves low set-up costs but higher nutrient losses and labor costs associated with burning. Chaff lining is often chosen as the best entry-level tactic that requires minimal set-up cost, no additional labor and minimal nutrient loss or redistribution. To calculate the cost of each method for your farm you can use a calculator developed by WeedSmart’s Peter Newman. Download the calculator or learn more @ Calculating the cost of HWSC for your farm.

Easy way to get seed out of bud

Does anyone out there known of an easy way to get seed out of buds without destroying the bud itself?

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shynee mac
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nope but I know how to get bud out of seed without destroying the buds. jkd you could google “single bud pollination” and its ways to pollinate single buds but if your new to breeding id say just fuck up the whole plant. no pain no gain

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GroErr
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Does anyone out there known of an easy way to get seed out of buds without destroying the bud itself?

If it’s seeded by accident you either don’t sell it, hash it, or discount it. There’s no practical way to de-seed without destroying the buds. I de-seed and put the remnants into the hash/trim bin.

The303Yeti
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If it’s seeded by accident you either don’t sell it, hash it, or discount it. There’s no practical way to de-seed without destroying the buds. I de-seed and put the remnants into the hash/trim bin.

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GroErr
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He didn’t say but I was assuming by the question that he accidentally seeded some bud and is trying to save it.

I seed bud all the time on purpose and when I de-seed the buds, that trim left over goes into small jars. It’s then ready to roll or stick into my pipe, bonus in my books, two-for-one

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He didn’t say but I was assuming by the question that he accidentally seeded some bud and is trying to save it.

I seed bud all the time on purpose and when I de-seed the buds, that trim left over goes into small jars. It’s then ready to roll or stick into my pipe, bonus in my books, two-for-one

That’s how I do it too

GroErr
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That’s how I do it too

Yeah either that or the hash bin if I have more around than I can smoke/vape. I’ve seen postings about how seeded bud is not as good, lmao

Bugeye
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New German teleporter technology makes it easy to deseed and causes zero damage to buds.

GuyLeDuche
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Last time I had some I pushed it through a metal pasta strainer. Got back a pile of nice seeds and a pile of bud powder lol. Worked great in the vaporizer, but I didn’t like smoking it (maybe too many hull remnants). I ended up running a bunch of QWISO with most of it and that worked out great too.

The303Yeti
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New German teleporter technology makes it east to deseed and cause zero damage to buds.

chuck estevez
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easiest way to remove it is to sell it and tell people it has seeds. let them deal with it, or poke seeds out with point of scissors.

Larry Gardener
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So far I haven’t got rid of any of my smoke, so I’m just doing it as I smoke it. But when I first harvested I went through and “shucked” out what was easy to get. Then I tried to push the seeded buds to the back of the queue, so now that it’s time to plant, they are what I have left. Worked out pretty good.

Lucky Luke
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If its heavily seeded it can be a pain.

I bought a real seedy ounce once (someone did the “old switcheroo” on me). was a pain in the backside .. but i smoked it.

Then put in a small hydro set up and used some of those seeds..

Deusracing
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Honestly my out door spur d that hermied due to stress is far more potent than my indoor. I’m baffled. I was wondering if you can blow it without effecting the taste so much. Or even just edible butter

Herb & Suds
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Honestly my out door spur d that hermied due to stress is far more potent than my indoor. I’m baffled. I was wondering if you can blow it without effecting the taste so much. Or even just edible butter

GroBud
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I ran this auto for seeds tossed the entire plant afterwords. With hundreds of seeds genetically matching that plant never do I try to be gentle. Besides the plants long past harvest once sacs open and seeds start falling out. To me being a month or more past harvest time makes the bud no good. Unless you prefer 90% amber mixed with disintegrated trichomes

Damn I got tricked lol 2016 read never skim

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riuoldmember
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put it in a contractor bag and hang it from a tree and get a bat and hit it like a piñata. keep rearranging the stalks and shaking them after you hit it a bunch of times.

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